In this episode, Geoffrey Smith sits down with Katina Sawyer to explore what truly drives wellbeing, engagement, and human flourishing at work. Katina shares how her research bridges science and real-world leadership, revealing why good intentions are not enough without clear, actionable behaviors. Together, they unpack what exemplary leaders actually do, from showing up authentically and building meaningful relationships to creating cultures of gratitude, flexibility, and psychological safety. Through stories from healthcare and beyond, the conversation highlights how small, human moments can create lasting impact, how leaders shape environments that unlock potential, and why attention, presence, and compassion are the real engines of engagement and performance.